Snoogans4Jay
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Post by Snoogans4Jay on May 25, 2008 3:00:56 GMT -5
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Post by M!$H on May 25, 2008 13:49:25 GMT -5
Right now: "One Big Self" by CD Wright. You would DEFINITELY love this book Snoogs. It's basically one big long poem. It's about prison and people who are in prison; it's not meant to say they are good or bad, but rather to show that behind every number that is in prison, there is a distinct person and personality. It's brilliant. Most of the book is snippets that CD Wright picked up from eavesdropping on guards and prisoners, talking to guards and prisoners, or just wandering around prisons. It's so good.
In the new future the book I won't be able to stop reading will probably be: "Concrete, Bulletproof, Invisible and Fried: My Life As a Revolting Cock" by Chris Connelly. I am buying it as soon as I get home from college and I've already heard GREAT things about it from the people over at the RevCo/Ministry boards that I frequent.
Another book that I just love and everyone should read: "His Dark Materials" by Philip Pullman. Ok it's actually three books, one of which was released as a movie last december, but the movie (The Golden Compass) sucked so don't watch it. The books are AMAZING. They are marketed as children's books, but that pisses Pullman off because he wrote them for adults. They're about religion and mythology. I read them for a theology class and I was BLOWN AWAY by these three books. Probably some of the most brilliant storylines I have ever read, along with great imagery and depth to the plot. Everything in the book points beyond itself. Pullman is a well known atheist, but he's also a religious scholar. A lot of the books are pretty much taking various Biblical stories and Christian beliefs and inverting them. AMAZING.
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Post by Gin-Uhhh 8D on Jun 15, 2008 21:26:59 GMT -5
A Clockwork Orange or Fight Club right now.
Yeah.
I'm into the classics.
And I'm bad at explaining so...
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Post by M!$H on Jun 16, 2008 0:17:53 GMT -5
A Clockwork Orange or Fight Club right now. Yeah. I'm into the classics. And I'm bad at explaining so... I LOVE Fight Club. It's a little over hyped today, because of the movie. The movie is good on it's own because it's not the book at all, but it's a damn good movie. The book is just above and beyond; it has it's weak moments, but all in all, it's a good comment on society. I love Chuck Palahniuk; if you haven't, read his book of short stories, it's BRILLIANT, I forgot it's title right now, but it contains "Guts" which is awesome. I love A Clockwork Orange but society overhypes that book as well, for very little reason; it's very hard to understand at some points and Anthony Burgess hated the book after he wrote it. |
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Snoogans4Jay
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Post by Snoogans4Jay on Jun 16, 2008 21:29:03 GMT -5
Toss up between Catcher in the Rye and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.......the latter for the imagery and ....okay just everything. Catcher because it is funny as hell and I love the way Holden thinks.
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Post by M!$H on Jun 17, 2008 1:07:26 GMT -5
Toss up between Catcher in the Rye and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.......the latter for the imagery and ....okay just everything. Catcher because it is funny as hell and I love the way Holden thinks. I LOVE CATCHER IN THE RYE AHHH! Everyone I know hated that book when we read it in school, but c'mon, I knew the minute I read it: I AM HOLDEN. Everyone is Holden, Holden is EVERYONE. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is required reading in Eugene, Oregon aka where I'm from. Ken Kesey is from Creswell, Oregon about 15 minutes from Eugene. His old van that he used to cruise around in in the 60s is still parked out by Florence in Oregon; it's all painted and hippie-ish. I climbed in it once and it was awesome. I have a new book to add to favorite book of right now: Slash's autobiography. OH WOW has that guy LIVED. |
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Post by kathy on Jun 17, 2008 7:49:00 GMT -5
Well, besides anything Sex Pistols-related, such as I Was A Teenage...  Anything by George Orwell - Animal Farm, 1984, etc. He gives you a lot to think about.  |
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Post by Snoogans4Jay on Jun 17, 2008 7:52:08 GMT -5
Well, besides anything Sex Pistols-related, such as I Was A Teenage... Anything by George Orwell - Animal Farm, 1984, etc. He gives you a lot to think about. Oh yeah, I LOVE 1984........so he was off by a few years, I still think it will happen in some way |
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Post by M!$H on Jun 17, 2008 21:14:59 GMT -5
Well, besides anything Sex Pistols-related, such as I Was A Teenage... Anything by George Orwell - Animal Farm, 1984, etc. He gives you a lot to think about. Animal Farm was one of those books that I read in one sitting. I remember I read it in my (Catholic) high school library while my brother was taking a final exam. |
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Post by Gin-Uhhh 8D on Jun 19, 2008 22:07:23 GMT -5
Oh, I jsut finished 1984, like... an hour before I got on!
Great book. Really liked it.
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The Catcher in the Rye~
I heard of it from one of my college friends from town; they had to read it (bit late, amirite?). Had trouble getting into it, but, I really liked it.
AND TO DEAR MISH ABOUT ACO AND FIGHT CLUB,
I agree completely. I still haven't watched the movie for Fight Club; I made it my mision not to until I finsihed the so I could be a smartass about it.
A Clockwork Orange was a little hard to figure out through the nadsat at some parts, but, after the third time I read it gets easier. And, gosh, there's another one by him I was supposed to be reading... something... God. Um. I'll remember later.
I like jumping onto the well-known overhyped stuff first before I get down into the depths of books, cause then people know if you're trying to seem more mature P:
I need Animal Farm.
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Post by M!$H on Jun 20, 2008 0:21:46 GMT -5
Oh, I jsut finished 1984, like... an hour before I got on! Great book. Really liked it. And The Catcher in the Rye~ I heard of it from one of my college friends from town; they had to read it (bit late, amirite?). Had trouble getting into it, but, I really liked it. AND TO DEAR MISH ABOUT ACO AND FIGHT CLUB, I agree completely. I still haven't watched the movie for Fight Club; I made it my mision not to until I finsihed the so I could be a smartass about it. A Clockwork Orange was a little hard to figure out through the nadsat at some parts, but, after the third time I read it gets easier. And, gosh, there's another one by him I was supposed to be reading... something... God. Um. I'll remember later. I like jumping onto the well-known overhyped stuff first before I get down into the depths of books, cause then people know if you're trying to seem more mature P: I need Animal Farm. I'm Russian, so the nadsat was easy for me to follow, but the way Burgess writes in all his books is very loopy and confusing. Either way, it's a good book but his others are better, just less well know. :] |
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Post by kathy on Jun 22, 2008 6:25:58 GMT -5
I was cleaning out some closets yesterday and came across a book I hadn't seen in years: The Everglades River of Grass by Marjory Stoneman Douglas. I just had to and read a bit of it.
Douglas wrote that there's nothing in the world like the Everglades, the combination of the sawgrass and the waters, the blues, greens, browns, and yellow, the sounds, the diversity of the creatures that live there. If you've ever been to the Everglades, you'll know exactly what she means - the miracle of the natural beauty of it all, how it needed to be preserved and maintained. People back then wanted to develop it, seeing it as a needless swamp. But not Ms. Douglas - She was so far ahead of her time....
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Snoogans4Jay
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Post by Snoogans4Jay on Jun 23, 2008 12:00:45 GMT -5
.........and another one for me is On a Pale Horse...I love Piers Anthony's Incarnations of Immortality series. What an incredible idea the man had  |
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Post by kathy on Jun 30, 2008 19:29:03 GMT -5
I'm reading the Sex Pistols files. Can't stop laughing over that photo of Glen washing his feet in the toilet. When I saw it the first time, Jonsey's words flashed in my mind...LOL!!
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Post by M!$H on Jul 2, 2008 23:48:43 GMT -5
I just finished Chris Connelly's "Concrete, Bulletproof, Invisible, + Fried: My Life as a Revolting Cock". Funny. Wild. Outstanding. Probably one of the better music biographies that I've read recently (also, just finished Slash's - a little frightening, a little too polished and drawn out writing, I'm pretty sure Slash wasn't stringing the sentences together). Connelly is really good with descriptions; one of my favorites is describing his audience as "well scrubbed pink balloons" as well as describing his style of singing at that point in his life as "Fozzy bear on crystal meth".
He doesn't have very nice things to say about Martin Atkins - granted, Martin has cheated him (and many other musicians, apparently!) out of a lot of money and continues to sell copies of Chris' live material (which Chris doesn't want sold) without his permission. He consistently refers to Martin as pompous without a purpose, constantly throwing around JOHNNY ROTTEN as a way to make himself feel better about his career. Chris might be a little harsh, but from what I've learned in the past few months of Atkins, I can't help but think he's right.
Chris is now a primarily acoustic musician, but his time at the front of Ministry and the Revolting Cocks as well as Pigface and Murder Inc. gives him some good memories - even though he hates the music he made back then. He was a little wild back then, a Scottish kid from a tiny town dropped in Chicago and given access to a LOT of substances... It all gets a little sad when you realize that one of the better characters from Connelly's stories, Paul Raven, died of a heart attack shortly after the book was released; with the amount of drugs floating through the book, it can't help but bring it all into perspective.
As a last note, Chris' memories of his best friend, William Tucker, are touching. Tucker committed suicide in 1999 following a long term condition which caused him constant pains. According to Connelly, Tucker was assumed to be a drug addict, pretending to be sick to get pain killers. Chris clearly still thinks of Tucker, as Chris' son is named after him.
I highly recommend this book to anyone. You'll have to order it from Amazon or Barnes and Noble.com, but it's really brilliant. Do some back reading on Ministry, Killing Joke, etc. and then you can sort of figure out what's going on as far as this circle of industrial music is concerned.
(Well that was a long winded review.)
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