Manson

[Snoogans4Jay]

No no not Marilyn The ORIGINAL Mr. Manson. Charles. Chuck.

On Sept 7th Linda Kasabian, the one hippie chick that was there on both infamous nights (Tate and La Bianca) but did not kill anyone, will speak for the first time on television. Miss Kasabian was portrayed in the film Helter Skelter by Marilyn Burns of Texas Chainsaw Massacre (the original) fame. She has been in hiding for nearly 40 years. I look forward to her first hand account as it is hard to get anything but excuses from the other three girls (the killers) or Mr. Watson. Charlie, of course, was not present at either crime scene.

[Snoogans4Jay]

Well I watched this and as compelling as it was Ms. Tate's sister said and continues to say that the Family, all of them, should stay where they are forever and that Linda may not have killed anyone those nights but that she is also responsible, not guilt free.

This has been news again lately when Susan Atkins, the Vampira who tasted Sharon Tate's blood and told her that she didn't care about her or her baby as she stabbed them to death, has now died. Ms. Atkins died of cancer at 61. Susan said she has found Christ as her Saviour and will meet up with her victims in Heaven as a changed being. Maybe she is right. I guess we all hope for redemption in that way to a lesser extent. Ms. Tate's sister said upon learning of Susan's passing that she would pray for her eternal soul.

[Shan]

Sept 26, 2009 10:15:46 GMT -5 Snoogans4Jay said:

Well I watched this and as compelling as it was Ms. Tate's sister said and continues to say that the Family, all of them, should stay where they are forever and that Linda may not have killed anyone those nights but that she is also responsible, not guilt free.

This has been news again lately when Susan Atkins, the Vampira who tasted Sharon Tate's blood and told her that she didn't care about her or her baby as she stabbed them to death, has now died. Ms. Atkins died of cancer at 61. Susan said she has found Christ as her Saviour and will meet up with her victims in Heaven as a changed being. Maybe she is right. I guess we all hope for redemption in that way to a lesser extent. Ms. Tate's sister said upon learning of Susan's passing that she would pray for her eternal soul.

People don't like to hear it but Ms. Atkins is in Heaven if she honestly accepted Christ as her personal savior as it seems she did. We can't choose our parents, family, or brothers and sisters in Christ.

[johnnysgirl]

This is a rare story about Sharon Tate`s death and as stupid as it seems.. ghosts are involved here...

Sharon was a struggling actress, hoping to make a name for herself, when she met Jay Sebring, who would soon become known as the premier men’s hair stylist in Hollywood. The two dated for three years and even announced their engagement at one point, but Sharon broke it off with him in 1966, when she met her future husband, Roman Polanski. The break-up was not bitter and the two of them stayed very close friends. In fact, it was Jay who was keeping Sharon company at the Cielo Drive house while Roman was away filming. And it was Jay who died trying to protect her from the Manson clan.



Jay lived in Benedict Canyon in the former home of Jean Harlow. He loved the house but was always concerned about the fact that it was supposed to be “jinxed”. He knew the stories about Paul Bern’s death but he also learned that two people had drowned in the swimming pool as well. He shrugged off the idea that the house was “cursed” though, but perhaps he shouldn’t have.

One night in 1966, Sharon stayed alone at Jay’s house. Unable to sleep, she lay awake in Jay’s room with all the lights on. She was very uncomfortable, although she couldn’t explain why. She felt “funny”, she later told reporter Dick Kleiner, and was frightened by every little sound that she heard.


Suddenly, a person that she described as a “creepy little man” came into the bedroom! She was sure that this man was Paul Bern. The man ignored her though and wandered about the room, apparently looking for something. Sharon put on her robe and hurried out of the bedroom.

What happened next would be especially chilling in light of events to come. Sharon started down the stairs but halfway down them, froze in shock. There was a figure tied to the staircase posts at the bottom of the steps. She couldn’t tell if it was a man or a woman. However, she could clearly see that the figure’s throat had been cut. Then, the apparition vanished.

Shaken, Sharon went into the living room to pour herself a drink but she couldn’t find where Jay kept the alcohol. She felt an inexplicable urge to press on a section of the bookcase and it opened to reveal a hidden bar. Not thinking, she tore away a piece of wallpaper at the base of the bar as she nervously poured herself a drink.

In the morning, Sharon was convinced the whole episode had been a terrible nightmare.... until she saw the wallpaper that had been torn away from the bar. She had indeed seen Paul Bern and at that time, had unknowingly seen a vision of her fate.

[Snoogans4Jay]

Oct 6, 2009 22:23:39 GMT -5 @johnnysgirl said:

This is a rare story about Sharon Tate`s death and as stupid as it seems.. ghosts are involved here...

Sharon was a struggling actress, hoping to make a name for herself, when she met Jay Sebring, who would soon become known as the premier men’s hair stylist in Hollywood. The two dated for three years and even announced their engagement at one point, but Sharon broke it off with him in 1966, when she met her future husband, Roman Polanski. The break-up was not bitter and the two of them stayed very close friends. In fact, it was Jay who was keeping Sharon company at the Cielo Drive house while Roman was away filming. And it was Jay who died trying to protect her from the Manson clan.



Jay lived in Benedict Canyon in the former home of Jean Harlow. He loved the house but was always concerned about the fact that it was supposed to be “jinxed”. He knew the stories about Paul Bern’s death but he also learned that two people had drowned in the swimming pool as well. He shrugged off the idea that the house was “cursed” though, but perhaps he shouldn’t have.

One night in 1966, Sharon stayed alone at Jay’s house. Unable to sleep, she lay awake in Jay’s room with all the lights on. She was very uncomfortable, although she couldn’t explain why. She felt “funny”, she later told reporter Dick Kleiner, and was frightened by every little sound that she heard.


Suddenly, a person that she described as a “creepy little man” came into the bedroom! She was sure that this man was Paul Bern. The man ignored her though and wandered about the room, apparently looking for something. Sharon put on her robe and hurried out of the bedroom.

What happened next would be especially chilling in light of events to come. Sharon started down the stairs but halfway down them, froze in shock. There was a figure tied to the staircase posts at the bottom of the steps. She couldn’t tell if it was a man or a woman. However, she could clearly see that the figure’s throat had been cut. Then, the apparition vanished.

Shaken, Sharon went into the living room to pour herself a drink but she couldn’t find where Jay kept the alcohol. She felt an inexplicable urge to press on a section of the bookcase and it opened to reveal a hidden bar. Not thinking, she tore away a piece of wallpaper at the base of the bar as she nervously poured herself a drink.

In the morning, Sharon was convinced the whole episode had been a terrible nightmare.... until she saw the wallpaper that had been torn away from the bar. She had indeed seen Paul Bern and at that time, had unknowingly seen a vision of her fate.

Interesting story. I have always liked ghost stories. I wonder who the person tied up with the throat cut was since Sharon didnt' die that way? Must have been another ghost. Spooky.