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Post by noir on Jun 18, 2007 5:12:42 GMT -5
all the various line ups had something to offer IMO....
However the early line up and the later one with McGeogh were fantastic!!
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Post by elisabeth on Jun 22, 2007 11:11:26 GMT -5
My first reaction was that the Levene, Wobble and Atkins line up was definitely the best but then again noir is right, all of the line ups had something to offer, I really like that the members kept changing (no matter for what reasons) because it made the albums very diverse, although nothing was better than Jah's bass.
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Post by Tao~ on Jun 22, 2007 11:40:37 GMT -5
I LOVED Jah's bass work.....but I also really like *Rise* and *Dissapointed*....(and add to the fact that I haven't heard very much PiL) so I can't pick a favorite line-up......I think that the consensus of each one offering something different is correct.....at least that's how I feel......
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Post by elisabeth on Jun 22, 2007 16:20:43 GMT -5
I LOVED Jah's bass work.....but I also really like *Rise* and *Dissapointed*....(and add to the fact that I haven't heard very much PiL) so I can't pick a favorite line-up......I think that the consensus of each one offering something different is correct.....at least that's how I feel...... I completely agree about the consensus, various line ups produced so different music, it wasn't better or worse, it was just different. And the fact that they don't seem to be called limited for nothing does make it a lot difficult to choose a favorite. I'm quite familiar with the music, I actually managed to find some of PIL in some local small record shop but I'm clueless about the history of the band, like for example, besides the obvious four, I can only name three other members off the top of my head. :/ |
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Post by Snoogans4Jay on Jun 23, 2007 3:43:19 GMT -5
I will post more on this subject when not at work, but as long as Johnny was there I was always happy....  ......I do think more needs to be written on this board about PiL...  ...and as admin/owner it is my fault it isn't thus far......  .....I must correct upon my return ;D |
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Post by elisabeth on Jun 23, 2007 12:44:44 GMT -5
I will post more on this subject when not at work, but as long as Johnny was there I was always happy.... ......I do think more needs to be written on this board about PiL... ...and as admin/owner it is my fault it isn't thus far...... .....I must correct upon my return ;D It's no ones fault, an active community is a matter of common effort ; ) ( *Elisabeth pokes the lurkers* POST! ) I think we should all share ou knowledge about PIL, although at the moment all I have to share is a huge lack of knowledge but I'll try to change that sometime in the near future! |
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Post by noir on Jun 24, 2007 6:06:33 GMT -5
Everyone should go to fodderstompf.com to check out all the PiL history...Scotts site is the best for info on PiL...
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Post by Snoogans4Jay on Jun 24, 2007 7:41:17 GMT -5
Everyone should go to fodderstompf.com to check out all the PiL history...Scotts site is the best for info on PiL... I understand that, but I would like to build THIS site to include some info as well. Once everything is out of the boxes here I will get to work. There are many many great sites out there and you are certainly right that that one is the official and best one, but the goal here is to make this the best damn message board possible. It is just the easy way out for me (in my opinion) to just post a series of links to other people's sites. It is difficult (but not impossible) for one person to do that and do it well, kudos to "Scott" (I don't know the gentleman but I am sure he puts much hard work into his site). |
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Post by noir on Jun 25, 2007 5:40:12 GMT -5
Yes...Scott also does Lydon.com
Anyways...I am sure we can do something here as well..
If people would like I can upload a few live audio shows throughout the PiL years..first show,Riot show,many more...Just pick a year and I am sure I could upload something.
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Post by Snoogans4Jay on Jun 25, 2007 10:22:57 GMT -5
Yes...Scott also does Lydon.com Anyways...I am sure we can do something here as well.. If people would like I can upload a few live audio shows throughout the PiL years..first show,Riot show,many more...Just pick a year and I am sure I could upload something. WOW, I had no idea who did John's official site! How did he get that job I wonder? The site is of course wonderful!!  I would love for you to post those links..........I would like to hear more from the 1986-1993 time period myself.... .......I have cable internet now, can watch youtube and videos but have to download a program (it seems) before I can listen to audio........working on that slowly but surely...... |
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Post by M!$H on Jul 5, 2007 2:27:24 GMT -5
Personally (being a very self righteous individual) my favorite PiL is the orignal incarnation because I love Jah Wobble & Jim Walker (original drummer, really talented). And I won't listen to anything after Keith Levene left, because once again, I'm very self righteous. According to most accounts, the band got very... cabaret (i can't think of any other word) after a little while, specifically after Keith left. They did some good stuff, but in my mind, it's took massive steps back from where the band had gotten with Keith and Jah. :]
.....But that's just my opinion. :]]]]
I guess it doesn't mean that some incarnations are BAD, in my mind, they just aren't as GOOD or innovative. If it makes sense.... :]
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Post by Snoogans4Jay on Aug 15, 2007 19:59:43 GMT -5
This topic was actually posted on a myspace PiL group as "the band broke up after 1983". I think that is insulting not just to John, but also to the HUGE contribution people like John McGeoch and Alan Dias brought to PiL in the late eighties, early nineties. I LOVE that incarnation of the group more and more (the more I listen). I think bands as well as people have to grow and mature, and that is what I think John did with the evolution of PiL. I think he just relaxed more and came to enjoy the music he was creating, as well as that process. I don't think he works as easily in environments where there are too many chiefs and not enough Indians  |
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Post by M!$H on Aug 23, 2007 21:05:05 GMT -5
This topic was actually posted on a myspace PiL group as "the band broke up after 1983". I think that is insulting not just to John, but also to the HUGE contribution people like John McGeoch and Alan Dias brought to PiL in the late eighties, early nineties. I LOVE that incarnation of the group more and more (the more I listen). I think bands as well as people have to grow and mature, and that is what I think John did with the evolution of PiL. I think he just relaxed more and came to enjoy the music he was creating, as well as that process. I don't think he works as easily in environments where there are too many chiefs and not enough Indians .........Personally, I'm not a fan of John McGeoch or Alan Dias' sound.  I don't know - it just doesn't sound right. I'm sure it has nothing to do with them, I just personally don't like it. I'm sure they're really creative and talented, but it's just not something I like listening too.............. |
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Post by Snoogans4Jay on Aug 24, 2007 18:53:02 GMT -5
This topic was actually posted on a myspace PiL group as "the band broke up after 1983". I think that is insulting not just to John, but also to the HUGE contribution people like John McGeoch and Alan Dias brought to PiL in the late eighties, early nineties. I LOVE that incarnation of the group more and more (the more I listen). I think bands as well as people have to grow and mature, and that is what I think John did with the evolution of PiL. I think he just relaxed more and came to enjoy the music he was creating, as well as that process. I don't think he works as easily in environments where there are too many chiefs and not enough Indians .........Personally, I'm not a fan of John McGeoch or Alan Dias' sound. I don't know - it just doesn't sound right. I'm sure it has nothing to do with them, I just personally don't like it. I'm sure they're really creative and talented, but it's just not something I like listening too.............. Actually I msspoke the topic that I felt was insulting.......they had stated that PiL was no more after Commercial Zone (not a PiL album) in 1983  PiL continued to record and make music until 1992. |
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I don't know - it just doesn't sound right. I'm sure it has nothing to do with them, I just personally don't like it. I'm sure they're really creative and talented, but it's just not something I like listening too..............